🗞️ About This Series (brief)
Each entry walks question-by-question through a single session of The Ra Contact, offering clear summaries, careful commentary, and practical “how to use it” reflections.
Primary text:
🧭 Session Snapshot
Date: April 5, 1982
Big Themes:
Pre-veil vs post-veil changes: dreams, sex, disease, pain, societal structures.
Disease as a benign timing mechanism (especially pre-veil), vs. disease shaped by thought-forms (post-veil).
The incarnation review as “testing” (distillation), not “studying” (details).
“Unconscious slavery” and the codification trap: laws protect and imprison.
The veil as semi-permeable; many ways to pierce it (dreaming, unmanifested self, polarized relationships).
Doubling effect: like-minded seekers together “find” more surely.
Mechanism of first veil: declaring the mind complex → body/spirit become complex.
Pain shifts from a controllable “alarm” to a strong catalyst.
🌟 Key Takeaways
The veil changes quality, not just quantity. Many “human functions” existed pre-veil—but after the veil they become far more polarizing, because uncertainty and inner conflict appear.
Disease isn’t framed as punishment. Ra repeatedly frames disease (especially pre-veil) as a benign way to end an incarnation at an appropriate nexus.
Review is a distillation event. Even if you “know what’s happening,” the end-of-incarnation review helps you see the sum of your attitudes—what your consciousness was biased toward.
Social systems always have tradeoffs. Codified law can protect the peaceable—but it also tends to “forget” uniqueness and become imprisoning.
Piercing the veil is relational. Dreams matter—but so do relationships, especially with other polarized seekers, because they intensify catalyst.
Pain becomes spiritual leverage. Pre-veil, pain was a warning you could mentally turn off. Post-veil, pain becomes “usable” catalyst—sometimes even chosen in an intense program.
🧩 Full Q&A with Commentary
83.1 — Instrument condition
Summary. “As previously stated.”
Commentary. In this late arc, Ra often keeps the opening health check brief, while later answers quietly reveal the group’s disciplined strategy: preserve the instrument’s vital energy by minimizing the “physical price” of the working.
83.2 — Why weight gain now instead of weight loss after sessions?
Summary. Ra says the assumption is incorrect: the instrument is not gaining weight because of the session. The contact is not drawing from physical material to an observable extent; the group has determined the instrument will not use vital energy (since physical energy is in deficit). Instead, the weight gain is attributed to (1) increasing sensitivity of the vehicle (including allergic distortions), and (2) the energizing of these difficulties. Ra notes it’s fortunate the instrument isn’t distorted toward overeating.
Commentary. Two layers here:
Metaphysical hygiene: the group’s intention changes the “fuel source” for the working.
Body ecology: sensitivity can rise with spiritual work and life circumstance; Ra frames this without drama: “monitor and support.”
Practical translation. If you’re doing intensive inner work and your body becomes “more reactive,” Ra’s stance is: don’t moralize it—support, observe, simplify.
83.3 — Pre-veil vs post-veil differences across many functions (dreams, pain, sex, disease, etc.)
Summary. Ra sets two foundations:
Time/space conditions stayed the same; the veil is a space/time phenomenon.
Experience changed drastically—often qualitatively, not necessarily quantitatively.
Ra highlights dreaming (now highly valuable because of unconscious material) and higher self contact (now standing at a “door” blocked by veil).
Ra then focuses on sexual energy transfer: pre-veil, each sexual activity was a transfer, but often attenuated due to lack of veiling. With no strong forgetting, it was harder for an undisciplined personality to choose one mate and enter a focused program of service; energy was dissipated more randomly, with less joy/sorrow. Pre-veil green-ray transfer was common yet weakly crystallized; post-veil sex becomes a more complex field but more efficient in crystallization for those seeking green-ray.
Commentary. This is a big structural claim:
The veil’s purpose is not to “add new organs,” but to change the learning quality.
Sex becomes a primary field where bonding, jealousy, devotion, vulnerability, control, and surrender can polarize the seeker.
Gentle caution. Ra is describing an archetypal mechanism, not issuing a moral directive. The point is the use of catalyst, not a one-size prescription.
83.4 — Venereal disease: did it exist pre-veil?
Summary. Disease existed before and after. But venereal disease is largely linked to distorted thought-forms associated with sexual energy blockage, so it is almost entirely a product of post-veil interaction.
Commentary. Ra’s framing emphasizes how bodily distortion can be entangled with mind patterns—especially around shame, fear, control, and blockage.
83.5 — If venereal disease existed slightly pre-veil, what caused it?
Summary. As random as disease distortions generally are: the body is in constant growth; reversal is “disease,” with a benign function—ending an incarnation at an appropriate nexus.
Commentary. The “benign function” phrase is one of Ra’s most important tone setters: it invites us to see the body as an instrument of timing—not a moral scoreboard.
83.6 — Don’s model: disease as termination when growth stops (pre-veil)
Summary. Ra says Don’s thinking is sufficiently clear.
Commentary. This is effectively an endorsement of the “disease as timing mechanism” model—at least as a useful framing within their metaphysics.
83.7 — Why does post-incarnative review help if there’s no veil?
Summary. In time/space, a life can be seen “whole,” pages re-read. But review’s value is testing vs studying. Studying (incarnation) diffuses attention into details. Testing (after death) reveals the distillation: the attitude complex biasing consciousness.
Commentary. This is psychological gold:
In-life, we obsess over particulars.
After-life review reveals: “What did you consistently value? What did you consistently fear? What did you consistently avoid?”
Mini-metaphor. Studying is reading every page. Testing is realizing what the book was about.
83.8 — Flight simulator analogy: pre-veil as being “bolted to the ground”
Summary. Ra calls it reasonable as an analogy for experiential differences, not specifically the function of review.
Commentary. The feel is: pre-veil safety reduces urgency. Post-veil adds stakes—so the “approach and landing” become gripping.
83.9 — Example of disease and reaction pre-veil?
Summary. Ra declines to generalize: infinite entities → infinite responses; over-generalization would be too broad.
Commentary. This is a quiet lesson in spiritual epistemology: don’t force a neat “how everyone would react.” The work is: how do you react, and what is that reaction teaching you?
Summary. Third density is inherently societal. Societies varied before and after. Pre-veil societies did not depend on intentional enslavement (since all are seen as one), though there was enough disharmony for experiments in governmental structures.
Commentary. Ra is not romanticizing pre-veil: there is still disharmony and experimentation. The difference is the impossibility (in felt unity) of building benefit upon another’s bondage.
83.11–83.12 — “Unconscious slavery” and STO people using it unknowingly
Summary. Don suggests many STO people may use enslaving techniques unknowingly; Ra says “incorrect,” then clarifies: Don’s question was understood as pre-veil conditions, where unconscious slavery didn’t exist. In present space/time, unintentional slavery is so numerous that it’s hard to enumerate.
Commentary. Two takeaways:
Watch for category confusion: are we talking pre-veil or now?
In the modern world, harm can be embedded in systems even when intent is good.
83.13–83.14 — Meditating on subtle slavery; law as protection and imprisonment
Summary. Yes, meditation on unexpected slavery can be productive. Regarding legal systems: the intention to protect is balanced by equal distortion toward imprisonment; codification fails to recognize uniqueness.
Commentary. Ra’s critique is not “abolish law,” but “notice the tradeoff.”
Plain visualization:
Law intends: protection, predictability, safety
Law tends to create: rigidity, overreach, loss of nuance
Daily-life mirror. When you replace discernment with rules, you gain safety—but you may lose the living heart of justice.
83.15 — Is the veil semi-permeable?
Summary. Yes.
Commentary. This single word (“semi-permeable”) is extremely practical: the veil isn’t a wall; it’s a membrane. Some things pass through—especially when desire, discipline, love, and catalyst converge.
83.16 — Planned techniques to penetrate the veil?
Summary. None were planned in the first experiment; the outcome was unknown. Empirically, there are as many ways as imagination can provide. Desire to know drew dreaming, balancing mechanisms leading to adepthood, and communication with teach/learners that could pierce the veil. Unmanifested activities helped. Most vivid opportunities arise from interaction of polarized entities.
Commentary. This is “spiritual R&D” language:
The veil wasn’t introduced with an instruction manual.
Penetration appears where seeking is alive.
83.17 — What is meant by interaction of polarized entities?
Summary. Two notes:
Extreme polarization potential in relationships of two polarized entities on STO path (or rarely STS path).
Doubling effect: those of like mind seeking together “find” more surely.
Commentary. This validates the power of committed spiritual friendship and partnership.
Plain visualization:
One candle lights a room.
Two candles together: not just double brightness—more of the room becomes usable.
83.18 — By what technique do two polarized entities pierce the veil?
Summary. Piercing begins in the gestation of green-ray, all-compassionate love demanding no return. Followed, higher centers activate/crystallize until the adept is born; the adept can dismantle the veil to some degree so all may be seen as one. The other-self is primary catalyst.
Commentary. Ra places “technique” inside love lived under catalyst. It’s not a trick. It’s a heart that keeps choosing compassion when it would be easier to withdraw, control, or retaliate.
83.19 — Mechanism of the very first veiling?
Summary. The veiling between conscious and unconscious was a declaration that the mind was complex, causing body and spirit to become complex.
Commentary. This is pivotal: the first veil is framed as a shift in the definition of mind.
83.20–83.22 — Body complexity: voluntary vs involuntary functions; many failed experiments
Summary. Pre-veil the mind/body/spirit could control blood pressure, heartbeat, pain intensity, and functions now considered involuntary. Don suggests the Logos had a planned list; Ra says “no.” There were many experiments; many were nonviable. Example: blanking pain unconsciously isn’t survival-oriented.
Commentary. This dispels a “clean design” myth: evolution/Logos exploration includes trial, error, and refinement.
83.23–83.26 — Pain as fire alarm; pain as catalyst after the veil
Summary. Pre-veil pain functioned as warning—like a fire alarm for those not smelling smoke. One could remove the hand from flame and mentally cut off pain until healing. Don notes this would remove catalyst; Ra says attitude toward pain varies, and his view is productive. Don asks if veiling pain control created usable catalyst; Ra says yes.
Commentary. This is one of the clearest “catalyst engineering” explanations:
Same stimulus (pain)
Different learning capacity because you can’t simply shut it off
83.27 — When pain is “too much”: runaway catalyst and the ‘board to the forehead’
Summary. Some entities choose (pre-incarnatively or via reprogramming) an esurient (intense/greedy) catalyst program. They want the catalyst and decide they need a “large board applied to the forehead” to get their own attention. Others may feel tragedy, but it is well to hope the other-self is using the catalyst it offered itself.
Commentary. This is delicate material. The helpful reading is not “glorify suffering,” but:
Some lives are configured for unusually high catalyst.
The compassionate response includes respect for the other-self’s (often hidden) purpose.
Human note. Compassion does not require you to deny pain; it invites you to add: “May this be used.”
83.28 — “I communicate now” vs “We communicate now”; comfort and diet
Summary. Ra jokes: “We am Ra,” noting English struggles with social memory complex plurality/singularity. For comfort: the instrument has two potential bodily distortions; aid can come through ingesting what feels desirable; no rigid diet rules, but emphasize liquids. The instrument increasingly senses what aids the body. It’s aided by affirmations and the “light” that is food of the density of resting. Monitor desires for more complex proteins; offer least-distorted options.
Commentary. This is grounded caregiving wisdom: listen to the body’s signals, keep it simple, don’t turn diet into dogma, and support rest.
🛠️ Practice Corner — Living Session 83
Dream door practice (7 nights). Keep a notebook nearby. Each morning: write 3 bullet points. Ask: “What catalyst is this dream trying to help me use?”
Pain-as-alarm vs pain-as-teacher. When discomfort arises: first honor the “fire alarm” (change posture, drink water, rest). Then ask: “What attitude is being revealed?”
Codification check. Once this week, notice one rule/process that protects—but also flattens uniqueness. Ask: “How do I keep the heart while using the rule?”
Doubling effect. Do one short meditation with a like-minded other-self: a shared intention, 5 minutes, then silence. Note the difference vs solo.
📚 Extended Notes & Context
Channeling hygiene & group support. Session 83’s “fuel source” and group care resonates strongly with L/L Research’s practical emphasis on safety, ethics, and stable support structures (see the library editions of A Channeling Handbook).
https://www.llresearch.org/library/channeling-handbook“Unintentional slavery” as modern catalyst. This session’s lens pairs well with the broad, seeker-friendly framing of polarity and everyday choices in Living the Law of One: 101 — The Choice.
https://www.llresearch.org/library/living-the-law-of-oneThe veil as membrane, and the dream-door. The theme of spiritual alienation + guidance through subtle channels is explored at length in A Wanderer’s Handbook (especially for those who feel they’re “wired differently”).
https://www.llresearch.org/library/wanderers-handbookConcept anchor (optional). For quick definitions of key terms used here (veil, catalyst, polarity, energy transfer), A Concept Guide is built exactly for this.
https://www.llresearch.org/library/the-ra-contact-resource-series
🧠 Study Prompts
Where in your life do you substitute rules for discernment—and how could you bring the heart back without inviting chaos?
Which relationships most intensify your catalyst—and how might that be the “piercing” Ra points to?
If your current pain/discomfort is an alarm and a teacher, what is each layer asking you to do?
Note: This material reflects Ra’s metaphysical perspective and is offered for study—not as dogma. Use your discernment.

